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Post subject: TCC brake pedal wiring  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:17 pm |
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As you know, if running a 4L60E or 700R4, etc, the torque converter locks. It must be "unlocked" or disengaged when the brake pedal is pressed. By searching on LS1Tech.com, I found a cheap and easy solution: A brake switch for a 1996 Camaro or Firebird (other years and models may work?). It costs only $5.99 and fits in the stock Malibu switch mount with NO modifications. It will control the brake lights and the TCC circuit to unlock the torque converter when the brake pedal is pressed. Here's a picture with some instructions:  I haven't wired it up yet, but should work great. I will post pictures when I actually wire it into place. _________________ Phillip Patterson - MalibuRacing FounderFather/Son '79 Malibu 4.8 LSx Swap Project
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:42 pm |
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I've got the identical part going into my vette for the 2004r swap. What are you doing about a shifter, going aftermarket? I am using a conversion kit that converts the factory shifter to the proper detents and selector display, is there anything comparable for a G-body?
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MalibuRacing
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:14 pm |
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I got a console and shifter out of a 2001 Camaro:  I'm hoping that the factory Camaro shifter cable will work.  I still need to go to the dealership and buy the cable. _________________ Phillip Patterson - MalibuRacing FounderFather/Son '79 Malibu 4.8 LSx Swap Project
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:27 pm |
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MalibuRacing wrote: I got a console and shifter out of a 2001 Camaro: I'm hoping that the factory Camaro shifter cable will work. I still need to go to the dealership and buy the cable. Would you believe I just happen to have one?  $10 plus the ride and its yours. Let me know if you need more pics/measurements. It has never been used. _________________ Craig '81 'Bu - LS7/T56 '07 Sierra Denali Classic - Wester's 91/93 hot tune www.shiftn6.com | My 6.0 swap thread | MR.com 50 fastest list
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:37 am |
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:51 pm |
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wiseman79 wrote: I've got the identical part going into my vette for the 2004r swap. What are you doing about a shifter, going aftermarket? I am using a conversion kit that converts the factory shifter to the proper detents and selector display, is there anything comparable for a G-body? Shiftworks.com has the shifter conversion kits you need when swtching from the 350/400 trans to an overdrive unit. I used one on my 78' Malibu with the 200-4r trans. You could also use the tcc lockup kit that ebay, and summit sells and it plugs in the side of the 200-4r, and 700r4 trans with a 12v and ground connection.
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:03 pm |
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used the same switch years ago!!! should have asked!!! J/K...you may want to reconsider the console with the ebrake on the side. Its more trouble then its worth. i tried it as well ...to much work for no performance? Good luck.
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:11 pm |
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Deuce4935 wrote: Shiftworks.com has the shifter conversion kits you need when swtching from the 350/400 trans to an overdrive unit. I used one on my 78' Malibu with the 200-4r trans. You could also use the tcc lockup kit that ebay, and summit sells and it plugs in the side of the 200-4r, and 700r4 trans with a 12v and ground connection. I would go with both personally. I was dealing with a mess concerning the speedo/lockup converter in my '88 pickup years ago and discovered the brake switch disengaged the TCC, even when you forced the TCC to lock up through the ALDL port under the dash. _________________ -Darren-
'78 Malibu - de-framed, the process begins, '81 Malibu - Vortec 350/4-speed/2.29s, '92 Sierra - 4.3/4L60 (383 project) "On the bottle of Axe body wash it reads 'for skin she will want to touch with lemongrass and bamboo' so with the lack of punctuation, I translate that to mean, 'for skin she will want to poke with a stick'" - cttandy
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:57 pm |
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Hey Phillip, when you get to the E-brake stuff remember lokar. I used their ebrake kit to mount an 85 camaro console ebrake in the center of my elky. it was simple and fast. and if you can mount a shifter to the tunnel you can mount an ebrake. good luck, if you want any pictures or advice let me know
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Post subject: Re: TCC brake pedal wiring Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:36 pm |
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Wow now we are talking! I have an 85 ElComino that I am swapping in a 350 and 700r4 combo and it looks like you guys have it covefed here! I have to ask though guys what is the cheapest easiest way to do this install? I like the consalook for sure and will go that way for sure and if the Lokar cable works I might go that way to. Thanks Guys
Ralph
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